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Was going back and forth with some friends in email today over presidential candidates and one of them that’s a history major and pretty active in government research pointed out a pretty interesting read...

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Income Tax:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/features/taxes/19990709_xcdfr_is_income.htm

it was passed by congress in 1913 over the Christmas break, when there was no one there. so while you can say it was "passed" it was only voted on by the handful who showed up with intentions to pass something without opposition. our government congress has done this many times over break to get controversial issues passed without opposition due to the congressmen being away from Washington on break.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
the 1st 30min or so covers this fraud by the US government, and why they refuse today to do anything about it.

Basically there is no law saying you have to pay federal income tax. its an illegal no- proportioned tax, started by an amendment that was not legally ratified by the majority of the states in 1913. its a fraud perpetrated by the US Government. state income tax is legal in states that have it (not all states have income tax BTW, i no for sure TX and FL do not).
 

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If anything ever comes of this, such as income taxes going away...Id say theres going to be alot of pissed off people
 

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Ya the email debate contiunes..

"Eventually, the income tax debate pitted southern and western Members of Congress representing more agricultural and rural areas against the industrial northeast. The debate resulted in an agreement calling for a tax, called an excise tax, to be imposed on business income, and a Constitutional amendment to allow the Federal government to impose tax on individuals' lawful incomes without regard to the population of each State.
By 1913, 36 States had ratified the 16th Amendment to the Constitution. In October, Congress passed a new income tax law with rates beginning at 1 percent and rising to 7 percent for taxpayers with income in excess of $500,000. Less than 1 percent of the population paid income tax at the time. Form 1040 was introduced as the standard tax reporting form and, though changed in many ways over the years, remains in use today.

Its obvious that tax is needed to keep the general infrastructure going, but essenstially, were talking a lot of money and folks over time want accountability..

I.E why it doesnt really effect us in Kentucky that much cause our taxes are shit compaired to other parts of the country... My buddy in Chicago is questioning why he's paying a 11,800 tax bill on his house + income tax + paying nearly 8% on sales tax on everything he buys... when the area is really no diff than here in louisville (he's in naperville, il)

One of the problems with the new income tax law was how to define "lawful" income. Congress addressed this problem by amending the law in 1916 by deleting the word "lawful" from the definition of income. As a result, all income became subject to tax, even if it was earned by illegal means."
 
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